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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://spoonfedblog.net/2010/10/12/stealth-veggies-yes-or-no/comment-page-1/#comment-8875</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 18:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, always nice to find a kindred spirit. Signed: Yours in anti-stealth.</description>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 18:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, that&#039;s an interesting point about picking the right time to share ingredient &quot;secrets&quot; with kids. I lean toward full and early disclosure, since kids start identifying foods at an early age. So it&#039;s pretty easy to educate them about ingredients long before they get the concept of cooking.
(BTW: Chocolate-covered espresso beans? Now you&#039;re talking my language.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, that&#8217;s an interesting point about picking the right time to share ingredient &#8220;secrets&#8221; with kids. I lean toward full and early disclosure, since kids start identifying foods at an early age. So it&#8217;s pretty easy to educate them about ingredients long before they get the concept of cooking. </p>
<p>(BTW: Chocolate-covered espresso beans? Now you&#8217;re talking my language.)</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christina,
I just came across your blog and just LOVE it! We seem to share the same attitudes and beliefs when it comes to eating (and feeding your children). I wrote a post on this same topic a while ago because it just got under my skin seeing all the sneaking going on. Keep up the great writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina,<br />
I just came across your blog and just LOVE it! We seem to share the same attitudes and beliefs when it comes to eating (and feeding your children). I wrote a post on this same topic a while ago because it just got under my skin seeing all the sneaking going on. Keep up the great writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need fat in your diet.  Fat is required for the formation of cell membranes and hormones, aids in fertility, and keeps the skin supple and younger looking.  It is required for the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins.  And studies have found that the more fiber you eat in your diet relative to the amount of fat you eat, the less calcium you will absorb and, presumably, the greater your risk of osteoporosis.
There are people out there getting 70 percent of their calories from fat and they are healthy as horses.
Butter in a brownie would be a selling point to me.  Ditto for coconut oil.  I&#039;ve no use for canola, which might as well be liquid plastic.  Soybean oil can be destructive to the thyroid (as virtually all soy foods are).
It amazes me, with everything I&#039;ve learned, that the focus with healthy eating is so often centered upon fruits and vegetables.  For a confirmed picky eater who refuses to touch animal fats or liver, fruits and veggies have a certain role--they contain micronutrients you should have been getting from organ meats.  But the minerals are not as easily absorbed, and the vitamins are not always in their best form.  I&#039;m given to understand based on the sources I&#039;ve read that as many as 40 to 50% of the population can&#039;t convert enough beta carotene to use it as their only vitamin A source.  Yet, many do use it that way.  Hasn&#039;t anyone found it odd that so many people need Lasik surgery now?  Or that urinary tract defects are the most common class of birth defects in the United States?  The development of the urinary tract is governed in part by vitamin A.  So&#039;s external symmetry--how many people with crooked faces do you run into nowadays?  I&#039;ve got one.
They&#039;re telling pregnant women not to eat liver.  Good lord.
I hate liver.  And I&#039;m starting to look for recipes that incorporate it in a way that makes it palatable to me because you know something?  Whether I sneak it into meatloaf or eat it sauteed with onions (OMG EW, I hate those too), it&#039;s going to have the same nutritional profile either way, or close enough to count.  Who cares whether I *suffer* through it or not?  It&#039;s all a matter of opinion as to how these foods should be prepared and eaten.  Did you know coffee beans used to be eaten instead of made into a drink?  True story.  Coffee beans are actually edible roasted, as any aficionado of chocolate-covered espresso beans will tell you.  Most of us, though, consume them as a drink brewed through the ground beans.  Is that wrong?  Of course not.  Is eating them wrong?  Of course not.  Are you going to get your caffeine either way?  You bet you will.
You&#039;re going to show your kids how to cook anyway, right?  So the veggies are your special secret ingredients that make your foods taste better than anybody else&#039;s.  Big deal.  Most of us don&#039;t teach our kids to cook at age three (though if you want to start trying then, I sure won&#039;t judge you--some kids just have the ability that early), so there&#039;s no reason to share all our ingredient secrets with them either, until they&#039;re ready to hear it.
It doesn&#039;t matter.  Their bodies are not going to obligingly wait to need those nutrients until you can force them to eat veggies in (to them) unappetizing ways.  Just get it into their meals and worry about the fine print later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need fat in your diet.  Fat is required for the formation of cell membranes and hormones, aids in fertility, and keeps the skin supple and younger looking.  It is required for the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins.  And studies have found that the more fiber you eat in your diet relative to the amount of fat you eat, the less calcium you will absorb and, presumably, the greater your risk of osteoporosis.</p>
<p>There are people out there getting 70 percent of their calories from fat and they are healthy as horses.</p>
<p>Butter in a brownie would be a selling point to me.  Ditto for coconut oil.  I&#8217;ve no use for canola, which might as well be liquid plastic.  Soybean oil can be destructive to the thyroid (as virtually all soy foods are).</p>
<p>It amazes me, with everything I&#8217;ve learned, that the focus with healthy eating is so often centered upon fruits and vegetables.  For a confirmed picky eater who refuses to touch animal fats or liver, fruits and veggies have a certain role&#8211;they contain micronutrients you should have been getting from organ meats.  But the minerals are not as easily absorbed, and the vitamins are not always in their best form.  I&#8217;m given to understand based on the sources I&#8217;ve read that as many as 40 to 50% of the population can&#8217;t convert enough beta carotene to use it as their only vitamin A source.  Yet, many do use it that way.  Hasn&#8217;t anyone found it odd that so many people need Lasik surgery now?  Or that urinary tract defects are the most common class of birth defects in the United States?  The development of the urinary tract is governed in part by vitamin A.  So&#8217;s external symmetry&#8211;how many people with crooked faces do you run into nowadays?  I&#8217;ve got one.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re telling pregnant women not to eat liver.  Good lord.</p>
<p>I hate liver.  And I&#8217;m starting to look for recipes that incorporate it in a way that makes it palatable to me because you know something?  Whether I sneak it into meatloaf or eat it sauteed with onions (OMG EW, I hate those too), it&#8217;s going to have the same nutritional profile either way, or close enough to count.  Who cares whether I *suffer* through it or not?  It&#8217;s all a matter of opinion as to how these foods should be prepared and eaten.  Did you know coffee beans used to be eaten instead of made into a drink?  True story.  Coffee beans are actually edible roasted, as any aficionado of chocolate-covered espresso beans will tell you.  Most of us, though, consume them as a drink brewed through the ground beans.  Is that wrong?  Of course not.  Is eating them wrong?  Of course not.  Are you going to get your caffeine either way?  You bet you will.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re going to show your kids how to cook anyway, right?  So the veggies are your special secret ingredients that make your foods taste better than anybody else&#8217;s.  Big deal.  Most of us don&#8217;t teach our kids to cook at age three (though if you want to start trying then, I sure won&#8217;t judge you&#8211;some kids just have the ability that early), so there&#8217;s no reason to share all our ingredient secrets with them either, until they&#8217;re ready to hear it.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter.  Their bodies are not going to obligingly wait to need those nutrients until you can force them to eat veggies in (to them) unappetizing ways.  Just get it into their meals and worry about the fine print later.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Hiding Vegetables &#8211; Good or Bad?</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Hiding Vegetables &#8211; Good or Bad?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Make your kids part of the &#8220;deception&#8221;, show them how to add vegetables in dishes without it altering the taste. Do a before and after taste test and explain how cool it is! (great article on how to do this) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Make your kids part of the &#8220;deception&#8221;, show them how to add vegetables in dishes without it altering the taste. Do a before and after taste test and explain how cool it is! (great article on how to do this) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Pros and Cons of Hiding Vegetables from Kids &#124; What&#039;s Cooking With Kids</title>
		<link>http://spoonfedblog.net/2010/10/12/stealth-veggies-yes-or-no/comment-page-1/#comment-8005</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pros and Cons of Hiding Vegetables from Kids &#124; What&#039;s Cooking With Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My friend Christina writes about this issue on her blog, and it is probably the best article I have seen on the topic. Check it out: Spoonfed &#8211; Raising Kids to Think About the Food They Eat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My friend Christina writes about this issue on her blog, and it is probably the best article I have seen on the topic. Check it out: Spoonfed &#8211; Raising Kids to Think About the Food They Eat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Want kids to eat better? Stop calling them “picky eaters.” &#124; Spoonfed</title>
		<link>http://spoonfedblog.net/2010/10/12/stealth-veggies-yes-or-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5533</link>
		<dc:creator>Want kids to eat better? Stop calling them “picky eaters.” &#124; Spoonfed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 06:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even a few minutes online and you’ll find blogs devoted to sneaky vegetables, artful bento boxes and countless other tricks to make kids eat spinach. Turn on the news, pick up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] even a few minutes online and you’ll find blogs devoted to sneaky vegetables, artful bento boxes and countless other tricks to make kids eat spinach. Turn on the news, pick up [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall when Jessica Seinfelds book came out, she was on the talk shows and saying the she does serve veggies along with the other foods she made that included the sneaky veggies. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any need to hide the fact that the foods contain veggies. Some veggies we eat by themselves, and some are ingredients. Nothing wrong with putting in some extras, and as the kids get older, teach them how you make those foods. I haven&#039;t bought that book, but I do find myself adding spinach and zucchini to meatloaf , pasta sauce and such - why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall when Jessica Seinfelds book came out, she was on the talk shows and saying the she does serve veggies along with the other foods she made that included the sneaky veggies. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any need to hide the fact that the foods contain veggies. Some veggies we eat by themselves, and some are ingredients. Nothing wrong with putting in some extras, and as the kids get older, teach them how you make those foods. I haven&#8217;t bought that book, but I do find myself adding spinach and zucchini to meatloaf , pasta sauce and such &#8211; why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summer, I think you hit on a key difference when you said you consider the veggies just another ingredient. We all do that! And my 6-year-old can be stubborn as a mule. Tonight she kept telling me how &quot;yucky&quot; dinner was, a dish she should have loved (whole-grain flatbread topped with parmesan, feta, roasted tomatoes and kale -- basically just fancy pizza). I got so fed up I wanted to get up and give her a bowl of granola just to make it stop. Turns out she was very tired (and ended up going to bed early, without eating anything else), so that almost certainly played a part. But it&#039;s never fun facing down a stubborn, hungry child. So, yes, options are a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summer, I think you hit on a key difference when you said you consider the veggies just another ingredient. We all do that! And my 6-year-old can be stubborn as a mule. Tonight she kept telling me how &#8220;yucky&#8221; dinner was, a dish she should have loved (whole-grain flatbread topped with parmesan, feta, roasted tomatoes and kale &#8212; basically just fancy pizza). I got so fed up I wanted to get up and give her a bowl of granola just to make it stop. Turns out she was very tired (and ended up going to bed early, without eating anything else), so that almost certainly played a part. But it&#8217;s never fun facing down a stubborn, hungry child. So, yes, options are a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: summerbl4ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>summerbl4ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something I wrestle with all the time. My 5 yo is definitely not in the happy veggie category. I guess I just wanted to say that it&#039;s not as easy as you might think. Believe me, I&#039;ve been trying everything I can think of, including trying to add veggies to other dishes. Faced with a very willful little one, I try to be persistent, but I also don&#039;t want every dinner to be a battleground. I don&#039;t consider it &quot;hiding&quot; but it&#039;s just another ingredient. I guess I like to keep my options open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something I wrestle with all the time. My 5 yo is definitely not in the happy veggie category. I guess I just wanted to say that it&#8217;s not as easy as you might think. Believe me, I&#8217;ve been trying everything I can think of, including trying to add veggies to other dishes. Faced with a very willful little one, I try to be persistent, but I also don&#8217;t want every dinner to be a battleground. I don&#8217;t consider it &#8220;hiding&#8221; but it&#8217;s just another ingredient. I guess I like to keep my options open.</p>
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